Former Forum Moderator of PrisonPlanetTV.com The forum of Alex Jones Breaks His silence and Speaks Out! (READ THIS NOW !)

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Screw you and your Libel suits,this IS NOT LIBEL THIS IS OPINION of another reposted here with permission. Sueing me would be almost amusing anyway since like so many in this country I have nothing to give you.

Reposted from-
http://www.infowarstv.com/alex.htm
Former Forum Moderator of PrisonPlanetTV.com The forum of Alex Jones Breaks His silence and Speaks Out!



Hello Fellow InfoWarriors, I am AmeriDeath-Chris Arnold former moderator of the Forum at PrisonPlanet.com as many of you know me and I am also the Owner of InfowarsTV.com , A site that IS destined to become The Youtube of the truth /Patriot Movement,

But sadly There were some issues which caused us to have to change and delete some things

And By Who was this injustice thrust upon us You Ask ! Sadly The Leader Of The movement and HIS WIFE! yes Alex Jones Wife Kelly Jones ( NOT VIOLET as you have been told) has Filed Legal Action against us ( DOCUMENTS BELOW )

Even After Alex Himself Saw The InfowarsTV.com website site and Talked about it ON AIR on his radio show and said The site Looked Great and that he Liked it very much and was considering linking to us if we could handle the traffic just last week HE APPROVED OF IT ON AIR TO EVERYONE!!..This is Not a rumor it was heard by hundreds of THOUSANDS of his daily listeners that will testify to that fact!

Sadly This has turned out not to be the case....which is really sad as Alex was someone That I really looked up to and considered and "Idol" if you will for lack of a better term as I honestly believed what he said in every aspect of the truth movement and the infowar that we are fighting

But In my opinion, as you will see from The documents below ..It seems to me that Alex is no better than the jackbooted thugs that he talks about and that the whole operation he has consists of one thing MONEY!! Plain and simple GREED on Mr and Mrs Jones, They say that we were trying to pass ourselves off as them ..

LIE: everyone knows on The forum and everywhere that we have always maintained that we were a SEPARATE ENTITY with no connection to Mr Jones and were completely ran and operated by Myself .Chris Arnold and that fact was listed in a disclaimer on the bottom of every page on the website and in the ABOUT US SECTION. and everyone knew this so That's a BOLD FACED LIE to say that we tried to pass ourselves off as them

LIE: Alex has always said on air PLEASE POST MY VIDEOS AND DOCUMENTARIES EVERYWHERE, make copies, give them away spread my message ..and that's what we were doing , Of course we had advertising space available on the site to try to help supplement the cost of the site and pay for the server bill (JUST AS YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALL OVER YOU TUBE AND THEY SELL ADVERTISING..WHATS THE DIFFERENCE??? YOU DONT GET ANY CUT FROM YOUTUBES ADVERTISING DO YA??), we have never even broken even and remain dipping into our savings to run the website, But thats not good enough ..It seems that Mr. and Mrs Jones Would begrudge us selling ad space in order to pay for the website because they were not getting a CUT of the money?? ( which there was NONE) and that it would cut into THEIR PROFITS ..and this just 2 weeks after he raised over $375,000 dollars in one day from YOU THE PATRIOTS in a money bomb-Which by the way the IRS knows about IM SURE, But they would begrudge us a few CRUMBS to pay for our hosting for a site that I sank my entire life savings into and actually bankrupt us now, while they raise hundreds of thousands of dollars FROM YOU..THE TRUE PATRIOTS! Seems GREEDY to me , especially when every link we had on the site LINKED BACK TO ALEX's WEBSITE, his store , his t-shirts sales, his DVD sales ..we were in effect ADVERTISING FOR HIM FOR FREE!!!!, again .not good enough. They want it ALL! You will see below that they are claiming copyright on the VIDEOS THEMSELVES that they have told EVERYONE TO POST AND GIVE AWAY.....VERY TWO FACED in my opinion of course

So That said its a sad day when Alex and his wife In my Opinion have shown Their TRUE COLORS , Its not about The Truth for him and his wife..He has found himself a NICHE MARKET and a NICHE PATRIOT COMMUNITY and it funds him well and he nor his wife want to see a single dime of that go anywhere else ..even after stating that he wants you to post his videos , he wants you to give his stuff away for free, Not True If it cuts or is PERCEIVED to cut into his money

..Its pure and simple greed Alex Your colors have shown brightly to myself and the entire patriot movement , In my opinion you are no better than the Television evangelist thats obviously a fake screaming SEND ME YOUR MONEY!!!!! AHHAHAHAHAH

and I feel that you have irrevocably damaged yourself and your reputation with me and all the other true patriots, I am sure though that you will go on air and try to put some Alex SPIN on this to make you come out a hero, a victim , poor poor Alex...But Partner This Time you made a mistake ..You took on someone that truly IS A PATRIOT and has just as many ties in the patriot community as you do ..and the people KNOW THE TRUTH , so spin it as you may ..you will not come out in a favorable light in this instance in anyone's eyes, except well maybe your own .

Its horrible to see someone you looked up to and place on a pedestal and admired so deeply show their true colors and the fact that in my opinion the only thing that they are really in This movement for is Popularity and GREED ,MONEY >>YOUR MONEY!!!! Its devastating to say the least

We do however want you to know that we will NOT LET THIS STAND..we will fight you tooth and nail on this Mr.Jones has said THOUSANDS of times Post our videos everywhere , copy them , give them away YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION!! and now he has turned his second face to the world by doing this !

If You wish to Contribute to our legal defense fund against Alex Jones and HIS TYRANNY then please email us at [e-mail] ..If you can contribute fine and we appreciate it ..But unlike Mr. and Mrs. Jones ..If you cant that's fine also and we appreciate your thoughts and prayers

The Joneses In our Opinion have turned out to be nothing more than what he so vehemently preaches about .A TYRANNICAL DICTATOR OF THE INFOWAR COMMUNITY...its ok to give his stuff away, and donate to moneybombs with no accountability ..Until it cuts into his Profits. or PERCEIVABLY cuts into his profits .and then its not cool any longer ... Its a sad sad day when Alex and Kelly Jones Turn out To be EXACTLY what they preach against, In our opinion of course

I will , I am sure No longer be able to post at the forum once this letter is posted so if someone has a forum that needs a truly good moderator and true patriot, Please contact me at the above email address also that is outlined for our legal defense fund

Do yourself a favor ..QUESTION EVERYTHING NOW that comes from Infowars , and Alex and Kelly Jones, Its just In our opinion ..everything Might/Probably- not be what it seems at face value! I in my opinion Believe The Joneses To Be BOLD FACED LIARS !..That should be AUDITED to the maximum because some accountability of the money That the patriot community sends them should be in place !

All of the above is my personal opinion which is protected under the 1st amendment and its not in any was defamatory , libelous or slanderous...Just My Opinion which I can freely state anywhere!

Chris Arnold-AmeriDeath

PS: On a side Note...To The Other Moderators at the Prisonplanet forum..Sane , JT, And Biggs ..I have Madd Respect for you guys!..and I wholeheartedly Like each of you ..But just watch your ass ....Its all Out in The light now ..The guy you are moderating for in my opinion is EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST!!!! Take care brothers and Ill catch ya on The Other side! Oh and be sure like I said Im sure Alex will try to spin this where he's a victim, and poor little Alex was losing money and we were using his stuff illegally, or that I was an operative sent in to cause co Intel or just some RIDICULOUS claim to make himself The VICTIM as he always does and ...YOU KNOW THAT'S A LIE..YOU KNOW ME AND MY CHARACTER AND YOU KNOW IM NOT AT ANY FAULT!!!!.. remember YOU TOOK THE RED PILL!! don't be fooled!



Users can access the site and your accounts here http://www.infowarstv.com/login

Please DO NOT UPLOAD ANYTHING PERTAINING TO ALEX JONES IN ANY WAY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION! I AM CURRENTLY DELETING ALL OF ALEX'S VIDEOS AND HE IS BANNED FROM HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SITE!

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LEGAL EMAILS WE RECEIVED FROM KELLY JONES , ALEX's WIFE TO MYSELF AND OUR HOSTING COMPANY

Please be advised that my client received a complaint that you have posted copyright protected material on your website without the owner’s authorization (see below). In particular, it is alleged that you have used a certain material without authorization by the owner. As you know, my client’s services permit customers to host and make available content over the Internet. Although my client does not affirmatively screen customer content, nor does it tolerate infringing material on its equipment, and may remove content that appears to infringe any copyright or other intellectual property rights.



My client has developed terms and conditions which each customer is to abide by and upon receipt of a Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") complaint and in accordance with it will "take down" a customer’s account. Neither my client nor I will engage in any battle with or between the parties over the issues raised in the complaint. My client urges you to contact the complainant or its representative to resolve this matter directly.



However, if you believe the copyright infringement claim has been wrongly filed against you as a result of mistake or a misidentification of the material, you may file a DMCA counter notification with the undersigned. The counter notification must provide ALL of the following information:



1. Physical or electronic signature of the subscriber (i.e., merging a scanned handwritten signature into the electronic text or using public-key encryption technology);

2. Identification of the material that has been removed or to which access has been disabled and the location at which the material appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;

3. A statement under penalty of perjury that the subscriber has a good faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or misidentification;

4. The subscribers name, address, telephone number and email address, and a statement that the subscriber consents to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial district in which the address is located, or if the subscriber's address is outside of the United States, for any judicial district in which the service provider may be found, and that the subscriber will accept service of process from the person who provided notification or an agent of such person.



Please be advised that any counter-notification submitted may be forwarded to third parties, including the complainant for purposes of validating its contents.

Additionally, in order to maintain an accurate record of all matters, we require that all information be sent via email or letter/facsimile only. Any telephone calls will not be returned.



If we do not hear back from you by the close of the business day tomorrow, my client will be forced to act in compliance with the DMCA and your website will be taken down.



Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.


Christopher Gonzalez
Attorney at Law

Perez Gonzalez, A Prof. Law Corp.
111 East Broadway, Suite 210
Glendale, CA 91205
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
www.perezgonzalezlaw.com
www.california-lawfirm.com




-----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:03:41 -0500
From: "V. Kelly Jones"
To: [e-mail]
cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: InMotion Hosting Copyright Infringed Material



Christopher Gonzalez wrote:
> My client is in receipt of your email regarding a request to shut down a
> particular customer website for alleged abuse.
>
> Please refer to the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the
> "UDRP") if you have a concern or dispute concerning a domain name(s).
> The UDRP covers domain names disputes. My client's policies specifically
> exclude domain name disputes. Please see
> http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp.htm for more information.
>
> If you are claiming to be the owner/representative of certain copyright
> protected and/or other materials and that one of my client's subscribers
> is alleging using such materials in violation of your rights then please
> review the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA").
>
> My client’s services permit customers to host and make available content
> over the Internet. Although it does not affirmatively screen customer
> content, is also does not tolerate infringing material on its equipment,
> and may remove content that appears to infringe any copyright or other
> intellectual property rights. However, before my client can take any
> action regarding this matter, it directs your attention to the Digital
> Millennium Copyright Act (17 U.S.C. § 512, et seq.). The DMCA specifies
> that a proper notice of claimed infringement must be in writing and must
> contain all of the following information (which your email did not):
>
> 1. A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on
> behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed
> (i.e., merging a scanned handwritten signature into the electronic text
> or using public-key encryption technology);
>
> 2. A reasonably detailed description of the alleged infringing material,
> or, if multiple copyrighted works are alleged to be infringing, a
> representative list of such works on this website;
>
> 3. A reasonably detailed description of where the alleged infringing
> material is located on this website;
>
> 4. Information reasonably sufficient to permit us to contact the
> complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if
> available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may
> be contacted;
>
> 5. A statement that the complaining party has a good-faith belief that
> use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the
> copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
>
> 6. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and
> under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act
> on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
>
> Please provide all of the requested information, signed under penalty of
> perjury, to the undersigned. My client cannot and will not act on this
> matter until all of this information is received.
>
> It is also important to note that the DMCA protects my client, as an
> online service provider, from liability for information posted or
> transmitted by its subscribers. Namely, as service provider, my client
> “shall not be liable for monetary relief, or . . . for infringement of
> copyright by reason of the storage at the direction of a user of material
> that resides on a system or network controlled or operated by or for the
> service provider" upon compliance with the DMCA and receipt of a proper
> notice of claimed infringement. Please submit a proper notice of claimed
> infringement. In light of the DMCA, any action claiming that my client
> is responsible for the acts of its subscribers would be misplaced and
> border as a frivolous action.
>
> Please be advised that any complaint submitted may be forwarded to third
> parties, including the customer complained of, for purposes of validating
> its contents.
>
> Additionally, in order to maintain an accurate record of all matters, my
> client requires that all information be sent via email or
> letter/facsimile only. Any telephone calls will not be returned.
>
> My client advises you that this letter is written without prejudice to
> all the rights and remedies it may have at law or in equity, all being
> hereby reserved on its behalf. Thank you for your anticipated
> cooperation.
>
> CAUTION: Pursuant to Title 17, Section 512(f) of the United States Code,
> any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material or
> activity is infringing, or that material or activity was removed or
> disabled by mistake or misidentification, shall be liable for any
> damages, including costs and attorneys’ fees, incurred by the alleged
> infringer, by any copyright owner or copyright owner’s authorized
> licensee, or by a service provider, who is injured by such
> misrepresentation, as the result of the service provider relying upon
> such misrepresentation in removing or disabling access to the material or
> activity claimed to be infringing, or in replacing the removed material
> or ceasing to disable access to it.
>
> On Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:25 PM, Freespeech Systems Kelly wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:25:38 -0500 (CDT)
>> From: Freespeech Systems Kelly
>> To: [e-mail]
>> cc: [e-mail]
>> Subject: InMotion Hosting Copyright Infringed Material
>>
>> Chris Arnold is using our copyrighted materials to make money. He
>> is putting himself forth as us and using our copyrighted videos to accept
>> advertising money.
>>
>> All of our videos are clearly copyrighted material as indicated in the
>> content.
>>
>> What other info do you need?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kelly Jones
>> Manager
>> Free Speech Systems, LLC
>> 512-789-7130
>>
>> (you wrote: "With respect to InMotionHosting you complaint fails to
>> comply with the DMCA and my client cannot act.")
>>
>
>
> Christopher Gonzalez
> Attorney at Law
>
> Perez Gonzalez, A Prof. Law Corp.
> 111 East Broadway, Suite 210
> Glendale, CA 91205
> Tel: [phone]
> Fax: [phone]
> www.perezgonzalezlaw.com
> www.california-lawfirm.com
>
>
>

July 1, 2009

InMotion Hosting

c/o Perez Gonzalez, A Prof. Law Corp.

111 East Broadway, Suite 210

Glendale, CA 91205

CC:

Eric Taube
Hohmann, Taube & Summers, L.L.P.
100 Congress Avenue, 18th Floor
Austin, Texas 78701

Dear Mr. Gonzalez,


You wrote:

My client?s services permit customers to host and make available content

over the Internet. Although it does not affirmatively screen customer

content, is also does not tolerate infringing material on its equipment,

and may remove content that appears to infringe any copyright or other

intellectual property rights. However, before my client can take any

action regarding this matter, it directs your attention to the Digital

Millennium Copyright Act (17 U.S.C. ? 512, et seq.). The DMCA specifies

that a proper notice of claimed infringement must be in writing and must

contain all of the following information (which your email did not):

“1. A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on

behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed

(i.e., merging a scanned handwritten signature into the electronic text

or using public-key encryption technology);



2. A reasonably detailed description of the alleged infringing material,

or, if multiple copyrighted works are alleged to be infringing, a

representative list of such works on this website;



3. A reasonably detailed description of where the alleged infringing

material is located on this website;



4. Information reasonably sufficient to permit us to contact the

complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if

available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may

be contacted;



5. A statement that the complaining party has a good-faith belief that

use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the

copyright owner, its agent, or the law;



6. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and

under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act

on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.”





With regards to your request, I respond:





“2. A reasonably detailed description of the alleged infringing material,

or, if multiple copyrighted works are alleged to be infringing, a

representative list of such works on this website”

The website infowarstv turns up 57 pages of video results for the search “Alex Jones. “ All Alex Jones radio show videos are protected by copyright as are all of Alex’s documentary films, for example “Endgame,” “The Obama Deception,” etc, all of which are easily found on the infowarstv site and many if not all of which the domain owner (Chris Arnold) has tagged with advertising for which he has received payment as outlined on his advertising page: http://www.infowarstv.com/advertise



The first page an Alex Jones search turns up is copied below:



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It is one of 57 or more, as I said before.

“3. A reasonably detailed description of where the alleged infringing

material is located on this website;”

The material is everywhere (including all over the front page) and is easily found with a search not to mention that the domains in question are obviously chosen to look as if they represent Alex Jones/Infowars/Infowars.com Alex’s image is being used, even, from famous images to gain advertising. For example, this image is on the home page:



“4. Information reasonably sufficient to permit us to contact the

complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if

available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may

be contacted”

My contact info is:

Kelly Jones

Owner/Manager

Free Speech Systems, LLC

PO Box 19549

Austin, Tx 78760

512.789-7130

[e-mail]

5. A statement that the complaining party has a good-faith belief that

use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the

copyright owner, its agent, or the law;



6. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and

under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act

on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.”

I, Kelly Jones, have a good-faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law and state that that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, I am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.





Thank you.

Signed Kelly Jones


Christopher Gonzalez
Attorney at Law

Perez Gonzalez, A Prof. Law Corp.
111 East Broadway, Suite 210
Glendale, CA 91205
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
www.perezgonzalezlaw.com
www.california-lawfirm.com


In light of Alex Jones endless claim that he wants you to copy and distributed him films I find this to be an offensive and underwhelming rant in response to a call about Infowarstv.com-


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RE: poll: are you banned at prisonplanet forums ?
Quote:
Wow, that is amazing. That is almost at the level of thought crime considering you weren't posting it on the forum only discussing the information with another member in a personal message
As a year long member, i originally had an account with the tag revolt426 (Without the R capitalized). I had about 5000 posts on that account and deleted it when i was forced to relocate to live with family so no one could login on my account.

When i moved, after getting an ISP, i re-created my account with a -R-evolt426 capitalized, another near 6000 (or more?) posts, i was made moderator of 5-6 child boards by Sane for my contributions to the forum.

Now i'll explain why i was banned, something i have never repeated before, as a moderator i had to shut my mouth in certain scenerio's and there was a fella tagged "AMD######" that insulted everyone. I asked Sane to remove my moderator status so i could confront him because he not only insulted others, but insulted me saying i was "trying to grab power" and that i "asked to be a moderator" (quite the contrary, i was ASKED to moderate).

In any case, i confronted him, made an ass of him and off he went into the night. After taking a few weeks off, i noticed Rick Perry was threatening to seceed from the Union and i had actually predicted they would attempt this crap in a Private Message with Sane months prior after studying how Lord Palmerston orchestrated the Civil War and secession movement.

Sane asked me to write a thread on how Britain orchestrated the Civil War - this is when i was getting into monetary economics. I gave him a short message of how it occured - starting of course with Andrew Jackson who collapsed the economy causing the panic of 1837. The response from Sane was typical given the distorted history that is regurgitated all over that forum - "Can you leave the part about Andrew Jackson out?". My response "No, i will not re-write history".

He decided to quote one of my old posts on the matter instead of allowing me to post my new thread and posted it in a thread called "The Gost of Lord Palmerston Rick Perry " or something like that. I added my comments on Andrew Jackson anyway becuase i was very upset that the moderators were literally censoring history.

In any case - Sane became very un-friendly with me from that date on and began ignoring my PM's (We used to talk via PM very often). I then began dedicating my time to monetary economics with Geolibertarian, and we setup two monetary threads. One exposing the Austrian School which i wrote - and one for monetary reform which he wrote. The threads were immediately over-run by paid bloggers, trolls and flat-out morons. I alerted two moderators that there were paid agents de-railing threads in the forum - nothing was done. This went on for about 2 months straight and then the "Alex Jones Machine" website came out.

After seeing the situation wth "Amerideath" or Chris , the Admin on this forum - i sent someone named "EvadingGrid" a PM highlighting why i thought there was something very wrong with the Alex Jones and Ron Paul situation...... i also added i thought there were people intentionally distorting history in the forum and mentioned that Sane had asked me to "Leave out" the part of history in whicih the Slave Trading Andrew Jackson collapsed the United States economy and paved the way towards the civil war.

10 Minutes later i was perma-banned, i confronted EvadingGrid on another forum asking him if he fowarded my private opinion to Sane. His response "This isn't a place for flaming, maybe you were banned for being a global moderator at inforwarstv forum". Of course, i was never a moderator on this forum and i actually joined about the time i was banned from Prison Planet - so i knew he had either fowarded the message or the MOD's were scanning messages.

So needless to say, i was banned for
A) Questioning Alex Jones' Agenda in a PRIVATE MESSSAGE, specifically asking why he had Ron Paul right before Ted Anderson would appear and hawk his Gold... and questioning Ron Paul's economic policy that everyone blindly followed.
and
B) Exposing Sane asked me to omit a very important part of U.S. history in a thread about the Civil War.


RE: poll: are you banned at prisonplanet forums ?
Quote:
Nice post Revolt about what happened to you over there.
Wish i could say i was trying to get attention but every word of it is 100% true.

The Private Message that got me banned was merely a list (numbered 1 through 8 or so) of "coincidences" that i thought were very pecular regarding Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Money Bombs and censorship.

I compiled a time based list of when Ron Paul showed up on the scene, and compared it with the Gold Hawking propaganda and the timing when Alex purchased a very expensive house. The documents on that girls website show that he purchased the house in Aug. 2007, which was in direct correlation with Ron Paul beginning his primary campaign and a few months short of the first Ron Paul money bomb. The list was more extensive than above but i can't recall exactly how i phrased it. I added the quote:

"I believe the Campaign for Liberty has highjacked the 9-11 Truth Movement and people are mindlessly following the leader off a cliff like lemmings" in regards to my learning of Ron Paul's insane economic policy.

That's about it, and i actually said in the Private Message "I am not posting this in the forum to avoid cluttering it up or 'trolling' " .................

To this day EvadingGrid has not told me wheather he fowarded the message or if it was read by an Administrator. I believe he fowarded it, although Route24 told me that particular forum setup enables Global Moderators to read Private Messages, because as soon as EvadingGrid logged into Propaganda Matrix about 20 minutes later i was banned by FemaCamper.

RE: poll: are you banned at prisonplanet forums ?
killtheempire
I was banned about a week or so after I joined. I didn't get into any arguments, debates, or really anything to that effect. I was not even told why "SANE" banned me. The only thing I could figure was because I am not a Christian, was talking about the Vatican, the Jesuits, Zionism, was anti-Jew-Gold, other than these I have no idea what it was about. I never understood it.

Revolt426 :
I would assume it was the Jew Comment, which i am not to fond of myself but i don't see that it warrants a ban.

I don't see how Gold has anything to do with Jew's in the first place. But that is why Sane banned you, i was friendly with Sane for quite a while and i know who they target on those forums.

Anyone who targets a religion or ethnicity , anyone who disagree's openly with Alex Jones or Ron Paul, anyone who get's into a religious argument. All of which are very broad horizens, meaning they ban you for merely saying "I think Ron Paul is insane" if you were to post that in general discussion. They will ban you for saying anything about the Vatican, the Jews etc al.

Some of the bans are warranted if one really inflames a situation but most of them would merely require moving the thread to the proper sub-board as oppose to perma-banning.
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I would add, they do allow jackasses like JonTheSavage to go around the forum telling people to riot, insulting people etc... as they allow the same for everyone else.

Which is the biggest hypocracy on their behalf. They allow people to literally tear each other apart and insult each other but as soon as the words "Ron Paul", "Alex Jones" "Zionist/Jewish" "Jesuit/Vatican" or "Scripture" are mentioned you are gone.

I have never told anyone the above story and it's 100% True.
killtheempire :
I highly doubt it. I wasn't calling it Jew-Gold then. The Jew-Gold comes from a South Park episode where Cartman robs Kyle of his Jew-Gold stash at gun point. Sane was a total prick to many people, at least that's the behaviour I seen from him on the forum. Either way you look at it, you shouldn't ban someone for even saying Jew-Gold, if I had, which I didn't.

Trolling would be a different matter, but I remember in the short span of time I was a member of PPF, that many were called trolls for simply disagreeing with board members.

I really wasn't even a member long enough to post much. If I remember correctly, this was nearly two years ago, I posted the Jesuit Oath, some quotes from the Pope and pictures, spoke about Zionism very briefly, but nothing of any big deal. PPF is completely controlled from what I've seen, and really just a mechanism to help Jones keep people locked into a paradigm.

(08-01-2009 11:06 PM)Revolt426 Wrote:
I told ya Vatican, Jesuit, Jewish, Zionism etc - all off limits.

alex jones, ron paul, ted anderson, moderator critism - off limits.

[KLC]

accept what tweek? one persons opinion of AJ?

[Tweek Ⓐ]

Further more I do not beleive in Copyrights,you should also no that. I do not believe in a monopoly on knowledge created by the government,that is morally wrong as far as I'm concerned.

[Tweek Ⓐ]

There is NOTHING misleading about this post your just not willing to accept it. As for your last question go ahead,probably make nothing but if you do good for you I HATE GOOGLE ADS. If you would take a moment to look at my websites you would find that all my works are creative commons and I encourage people to use them in anyway they like.

[KLC]

and tweek...I'd like to know how you'd feel if I took ALL your radio shows and posted them on blog right beside some google ads...and I made some $$$$ and you made nothing.

how would you feel.


and don't lie...God is watching :)

[KLC]

you know I think this post is misleading.

AJ doe NOT have a problem with people copying/distributing his films.

what he does have a problem with is people showing his films on their websites and making AD revenue.

Also the domain name is tooooooo close for comfort. infowars.tv AND infowarstv.com ARE TOO SIMALIAR


the guy was piggy-backing off alex's movie and trying to make a buck.

[quakergirl]

Hmmmm.....now I know why July4Patriot said to take what Alex says with a grain of salt- there are doubts presently as to what he has become by getting angry about a link and about a small domain posting his videos when we have ALL heard him say we can reproduce them for free- it states on the for sale videos of Obama Deception. I heard him say that. Maybe Alex Jones is the Andrew Jackson of the movement, so to speak, and others like Rense are the Thomas Jeffersons. And July4Patriot is a Daniel Morgan- everybody has a place and somebody else could make the comparisons better than I. Only thing is- I doubt Alex will stick around for a real war if he has Schurig as a lawyer- she deals with dual citizenship.

[Tweek Ⓐ]

Yes indeed he does and I don't like it.

[whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet]

i like how he waxes poetic about fishing and lawn watering and stuff

he repeats himself a lot maybe

[Tweek Ⓐ]

Love your comment Laser.